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Post by coasterboy on Jun 14, 2007 14:14:46 GMT -8
I saw on a forum a few years ago on what would you do if you became the president, or CEO of a Theme Park. Im just curious as to what you guys would do because you probably go to Silverwood and know more about it than I do. In the next 5 years what would you do to the complex?
2008 (Maybe 4 Million) Zamperla Disk O Coaster Zamperla Power Surge where Skydiver is New Sit Down Restaurant
2009 (Maybe 9 Million) S&S 16 Passenger Free Screaming Swings Proslide Tornado added to Boulder Beach Tremors gets a Second train for its 10th anniversary
2010 (Maybe 5 Million) Zamperla Spinning Wild Mouse Coaster Moser Spring Ride 10 added to Kids Area
2011 (Maybe 5 Million) Larson Flying Scooters added Larson Ring of Fire added Chance Giant Wheel added
2012 (Maybe 10) Sally Interactive Dark Ride Proslide HydroMagnetic Zip Coaster added to Boulder Beach
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jun 14, 2007 21:17:31 GMT -8
Interesting thread.
After 2007's Boulder Beach expansion I'd take a break with boulder beach and leave it alone for a few years.
In 2008, I'd add a wild mouse or spinner coaster. These don't take up much room and are usually great crowd pleasers. Silverwood doesn't need any more wooden coasters.
In 2009 I'd overhaul the kiddie area...because it is pathetic. Add several new rides for little kids. Make it a lot bigger. Get Garfield and Odie in this area to take pics with the kids.
2010 - the plans would have to be replace several of the park's flat rides with newer, more exciting flat rides. Silverwood's current flat ride selection is worse than most state fairs - worse even than some traveling carnivals. They could seriously use a Giant Frisbee as well as an S&S Screaming Swing. Also, can they please get a real bumper car attraction!?!?
2011 - go ahead and add Proslide Tornado to Boulder Beach - it will be time to focus on this park again and that type of slide would make the park 100% complete.
2012 - I guess this will be the parks 25th(?) anniversary and I'd say time for a massive new coaster. Not a woodie!!! Add a nice steel coaster - a rocket coaster would be cool but realistically I'd think they could pull off maybe a mid-sized inverted coaster to add something different in contrast to the two woodies.
Beyond that...well...I'm not going to think that far out. I DO think adding an on-site hotel would be great but they'd have to really improve main street with more shops, restaurants and attractions. And I'm also a realist and don't think Silverwood will add something EVERY single year. However, they have done so the past few years so maybe I'm wrong?...
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Post by skinnyguy on Jun 15, 2007 10:37:50 GMT -8
Well, I'm not sure of the timing, but here's kinda what I'd do -
First, I'd add the much needed second trains to both wooden coasters. Yeah, I know, the lines aren't ever THAT long, but it's just more annoying than anything else. And I've heard lots of people who feel the same.
Over the next year or two, I'd add several good family attractions to the theme park - stuff like a Wild Mouse, Screamin Swing, or an Interactive Trackless Dark Ride (i.e. Challenge of Mondor). This is the big area I feel that Silverwood is lacking in. Then, I'd add a big steel coaster - NOT a wooden coaster - I agree with Bud on this. But I think if they're going to do a steel, it needs to be a good one. Save up the money to do it right. I've always thought a B&M flying coaster back in the forest would be sweet. I also agree with Bud that they should eventually put in a ProSlide Tornado into the water park, but not anytime soon.
I also like the idea of overhauling the kids area, and making Main Street a bit bigger with more to do.
So yeah, all those ideas may not be necessarily possible or even good, but you asked what I'd do if I were Gary Norton, and that's what I'd want to do!
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Post by 65skylark on Jun 15, 2007 18:18:00 GMT -8
First, I'd add the much needed second trains to both wooden coasters. Yeah, I know, the lines aren't ever THAT long, but it's just more annoying than anything else. And I've heard lots of people who feel the same. This is the single biggest complaint ANYONE should have with Silverwood. And, the lines do get plenty long on some days. This would be without a doubt the first investment I would make to the park. If it meant not adding one other single thing for that year then so be it. I honestly can not think of any other park (regardless of size) that has a full size woodie, that doesn't have two trains. Truly ridiculous.
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jul 16, 2007 21:30:02 GMT -8
You're right skylark; this is insane. Can you believe that when I asked a ride op at Silverwood the question as to why they didn't have two trains on tremors he responded with:
"Well, that really wouldn't be possible, would it?"
I guess ignorance is (perceived) bliss...
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Post by 65skylark on Jul 17, 2007 21:47:10 GMT -8
I have heard this argument made by other ride ops over at the silverwoodunderground forums, and you are right, it is an ignorant statement.
There is a brake run on Tremors and Timber Terror. They were both designed to be able to run with two trains. Wait time would be cut nearly in half with efficient operations.
Can anyone guess this is my biggest complaint with Silverwood? The only thing worse is when a park actually has two trains and they only use one.
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Post by skinnyguy on Jul 18, 2007 9:36:37 GMT -8
^I agree. The last 3 times I've been at Knott's they've been running one train on Ghostrider because the crowds were so light, and on that ride, it's much worse than on Tremors and TT. Ghostrider is such a long ride...the wait is ridiculous. And considering that they have 3 trains they could run, and they only do one of them, really ticks me off.
As I said in my TR, after seeing Timberhawk run two trains with no crowds at all, no other wooden coaster, especially Ghostrider with how long the ride is, has an excuse for doing one train.
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jul 20, 2007 9:24:22 GMT -8
Oh, skinnyguy, don't get me started on Ghostrider. Not only do you wait forever when it's in one-train operation, but you wait for a once-wonderful ride that has become flat-out AWFUL.
Ghostrider is one of those rare rides that I feel very sorry for, while at the same time being sickened by thinking of what it once was and what it has now become. It truly was the greatest wooden coaster out there - once upon a time.
(Though I highgly doubt even in its glory days that it would surpass Voyage...)
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Post by 65skylark on Jul 21, 2007 15:33:23 GMT -8
^ I agree that Ghost Rider isn't even close to what it used to be, but I certainly don't consider it a bad ride. I still rank it in the top half of the wood coasters I have been on.
And, since yo mentioned Voyage, thought I'd just through this in. Of the dozen or so people I personally know that have been on both Voyage and El Toro, all of them rank El Toro higher.
I'm hoping I'll be able to give my own opinion on this by the end of next year.
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jul 25, 2007 21:50:33 GMT -8
Yeah, skylark, I've heard El Toro is awesome too. But I've gotta think Voyage is pretty hard to top?!
Anyway getting back on topic, Silverwood seriously does need second trains, but I'd rather see a new (not wooden) coaster come to the park first. I think they could do awesome with a spinner like what Knott's just put in. Good family-style coaster, and while I've not yet been on a spinner, I hear they are not nauseating and a great ride that is different every time. I don't suspect it costing too much, and it would be a huge crowd pleaser and would fit great in the back of the park by the picnic pavilion area.
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