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Post by 65skylark on Nov 28, 2007 10:33:54 GMT -8
As for the ride itself, I've only been on one Inverted coaster ("BAT" at Lagoon), and it sucked. However, Déjà Vu is 4 times taller and over twice as fast, and actually does some cool things, so It can only be better. 191 feet will tower over all other structures in the park, and that will be cool. It will tower over everything else, that much is true. As far as the ride, just remember, BAT is a Vekoma Jr SLC and Vu is a Vekoma Giant SLC. Take the ride experience you had on BAT and make it four times taller and twice as fast and you probably would loose your head before the ride ended. Taller and faster is not always better I will say the ride is a somewhat unique experience because of the towers. It is very fun being taken up those spikes slowly just to be dropped straight down. It is just everything in between the two spikes that really sucks.
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Post by skinnyguy on Nov 28, 2007 13:35:21 GMT -8
Re: Nuttyguy
I was a bit confused as to why I was able to read the thread on the Insider site as well....I always thought that site was restricted?
Anyway, I haven't been on the BAT at Lagoon, but from the pictures and things I've heard, comparing BAT to Deja Vu is like comparing Tiny Toot to Timber Terror - well, maybe no that extreme, but I'm sure you get the point. BAT was designed to be a smaller family-style coaster, while Deja Vu was designed to be a massive thriller. And I will tell you that if you ever get a chance to ride a B&M invert - you'll be much happier than you would with any Vekoma. I've been on Batman, Top Gun, and Silver Bullet - all are smooth as glass, and all are great coasters.
I've only been on the Deja Vu at SFMM once, but I don't remember it being that painful - it was a long time ago, though. I do remember thinking that going straight up those towers was just crazy. And I remember liking it a lot better than any Boomerang or Invertigo I'd ever been on in the past.
Thinking about this whole thing though, I'm not sure I believe it will actually happen. If it does, I'll be happy, but I'm not getting excited yet. Why? Well, let's see:
2001-02 offseason - Waterpark officially announced to be put in and opened for 2002 season....was delayed.
2000-200? - Skycoaster parts sitting at the park....rumors claiming it would get built...never happened
2005 - Official announcement that park would be open in December with Christmas stuff....never happened
2005-06 offseason - Various employees "confirming" that a Huss Giant Frisbee would be added along with Drop Tower....no Frisbee was announced or built.
So, while I agree that this seems plausible, I'm waiting until I hear something official before I get excited. Just too much uncertainty.
Then again, like Bud said...how long were we hearing about Carsland, Little Mermaid, World of Color, etc. before Disney made their official announcement?
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Post by 65skylark on Nov 28, 2007 16:48:33 GMT -8
^This isn't Disney though. This is a small regional theme park. If this thing is getting moved to Silverwood we will know within the next few months just based on track siting alone.
And in my humble opinion: Invertigo > Deja Vu.
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Post by rct2wizard360 on Nov 28, 2007 21:09:14 GMT -8
Hello Silverwood locals!
I'm a Six Flags Great America local from over at SFGAmWorld.com As pretty much all of you know, Deja Vu's last season was this years.
Just a few facts about the ride. -The ride did have an extremely late opening day. -The ride was originally plauged with much more problems than it is now. Most of this was actually due to Vekoma's frequent matinence on it. Matinence at the park has since then been the people who have been in charge of the upkeep, and fine tuning of this ride. Since it's opening in 2001 is has ran better than ever for the past two years thanks to our maitinence crew. -The main reason this ride was down so much was weather. I don't know if you all know how the catchcar system works on this ride, but it's simple idea is very picky in the rain and the cold, and sometimes even the extremely hot. So I don't really know how the weather is up in Idaho... -Capacity will totally be dependent upon the crew. The reason the capacity is so much lower than advertised is the fact that Six Flags installed extra seatbelts to the ride. The highest it ever was with the seatbelts was around 650pph. I remember seeing it higher than that, but that 650 is confirmed. This ride really comes down to the crews ability to check things quick and orderly, and inform the guests of what they need to do before they board the ride. I've waited a full queue for it, and got on in under an hour.
I've been on it well over 300 times. It's a great ride, and if you get it, you will really enjoy it.
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Post by linearinduction on Nov 29, 2007 16:58:24 GMT -8
Hey Nuttyguy, we call The Bat "The Jr. Hang N Bang" cause it meanders through the trees and you get a lot of head banging...on straight track sections none the less! lol As Skinnyguy mentioned, The Bat is a Vekoma Family Suspended Coaster (FSC) even if it was Falsely advertised by Lagoon in 2005. ;D I would love to see Silverwood get a good steel coaster and I'm hoping to come back to visit in 2008...consider that your warning Nuttyguy! lol Here's a question for you guys about what Silverwood's Budgets for Past Projects and Additions have been. By taking that into consideration, the original cost of DV, then an estimated depreciated price...perhaps it may fit into what Silverwood would usually Budget for a New Ride/Attraction. Just a Thought. - Sid
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Post by skinnyguy on Nov 29, 2007 18:22:41 GMT -8
^This isn't Disney though. This is a small regional theme park. If this thing is getting moved to Silverwood we will know within the next few months just based on track siting alone. And in my humble opinion: Invertigo > Deja Vu. I realize that Silverwood is in a different league than Disney - sorry if I gave a different impression. All I was meaning to say was that at this point, I want to maintain a healthy level of skepticism because of past rumors that ended up not coming true. I made the reference to Disney, simply to point out that I'm aware that insiders are often correct when something gets leaked early. But you're right - Silverwood doesn't have a huge team of imagineers bouncing ideas around for months, even years in advance. As for Invertigo vs. Deja Vu - I'm just going off what I remember - and that's not a reliable source! I rode Invertigo at PGA five years ago and Deja Vu 4 years ago. I just remember being very surprised by DV and how thrilling it was. To fairly compare the two, I'd have to ride them both again. But I did enjoy Invertigo a lot. I do still stand by my comment about it being better than any boomerang ride I'd ridden. On a side note - welcome to the boards, rct2wizard360 and linearinduction! Thanks for the info about the rides you guys mentioned. I don't know exactly how much DV cost vs. how much Silverwood "usually" spends. Last year they spent $5M on the waterpark expansion, but the year before they only spent $1M on the drop tower. Having said that, I think since they spent so much last year, they probably won't spend as much this year. But then again, I have no idea how much these rides cost.
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Post by styvx on Nov 29, 2007 20:23:00 GMT -8
i'd guess the numbers would support sw being able to get a deja vu coaster in used condition. after all they've added HUGE boulder beach expansions (all brand new) for the past few years almost every year.
but i don't buy this rumor b/c sw doesnt seem to be the kinda park that wants used rides. never has been. they buy em new. and to put in a used ride - especially when the ride has a bad repuatation to begin with - seems like a stupid decision. and sw hasn't made too many stupid decisions in the past.
-styvx
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Post by 65skylark on Nov 29, 2007 22:15:00 GMT -8
^ I'll agree with you that buying Deja Vu doesn't seem like a great idea (unless they got a smokin' deal on the thing) but Silverwood has purchased many used rides. Most of their flats are used and their first coaster (Corkscrew) is about as used as it gets. Even large parks in major markets invest in used coasters quite a bit. The thing is, unless you are a coaster enthusiast, you probably have no idea that the coaster is used. Most parks that buy used coasters advertise them as new and no one is the wiser.
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Post by Nuttyguy on Nov 30, 2007 1:55:45 GMT -8
I don't agree with with you styvx on the used/new rides thing. The only rides at silverwood which are not brand new are the 2 woodies, the drop tower, the water rides and the water park. While it may be the biggest thing they've bought used, I don't think silverwood has anything against used rides.
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Post by Nuttyguy on Nov 30, 2007 1:57:53 GMT -8
On a side note, the forum at silverwoodinsider is now "down" for maintenance. I'm guessing they discovered it was open to the public.
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