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Post by batjaxsun on Jun 29, 2016 14:04:53 GMT -8
It's not a woodie. I-Box are steel coasters. Coasters classified by their tracks, not their support structure. Also you said topper track and/or RMC's more traditional wooden coasters like Outlaw Run. OR is topper track. All of RMC's non-I-Box coasters are topper track which barely qualifies as wooden because the track still sits on a few layers of wood.[/quote] Thanks for all of the details....clearly the lines between steel and wood (as they have traditionally been known) are being blurred more and more each year. I still tend to think of coasters based on their frame structure (SFMM's Colossus will always be a "woodie" in my mind). Nuances aside, all of the I-box coasters I've been on are in the top 10 of my (now) 300+. No matter how you slice it, the world of coasters is getting very interesting and with RMC being so close, it seems someday Silverwood is bound to see something incredible.[/quote] Well, you're wrong. Coasters are classified by their tracks, not their structures. Woodies have a steel plate on a bed of layered wood. That's what gives them their unique ride. TT is simply a thicker plate of steel on a single thick block of woof. IBox are well steel all the bed through. And most woodies that have been converted into IBox have very little wood left in their structure anyway.
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jun 29, 2016 22:14:41 GMT -8
Well, you're wrong. Coasters are classified by their tracks, not their structures. Woodies have a steel plate on a bed of layered wood. That's what gives them their unique ride. TT is simply a thicker plate of steel on a single thick block of woof. IBox are well steel all the bed through. And most woodies that have been converted into IBox have very little wood left in their structure anyway. And I will still always consider Colossus a woodie.
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Post by batjaxsun on Jul 1, 2016 15:47:54 GMT -8
Well, you're wrong. Coasters are classified by their tracks, not their structures. Woodies have a steel plate on a bed of layered wood. That's what gives them their unique ride. TT is simply a thicker plate of steel on a single thick block of woof. IBox are well steel all the bed through. And most woodies that have been converted into IBox have very little wood left in their structure anyway. And I will still always consider Colossus a woodie. That's fine because Colossus no longer exists. Twisted Colossus is brand new coaster. More than 70% of the support structure is steel, not wood. But aside from that you can't consider TC a woodie just because you want to any more that I can Matterhorn at Disneyland, even though both have partially wood support structures. Is Matterhorn a woodie? No and neither is TC. Let me put it this way, if Viper had been built with the exact same track and layout but had a wooden truss style support structure would you consider it a woodie?
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Post by Bud Parsley on Jul 5, 2016 21:32:35 GMT -8
If I remember right they already have the track for the T-Rex on property. I heard they from a pretty reliable source. If true, then, wow. I mean that could put the park on the map for good. I'll see if I can confirm any of this when I'm up there.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 11, 2016 6:56:25 GMT -8
If I remember right they already have the track for the T-Rex on property. I heard they from a pretty reliable source. If true, then, wow. I mean that could put the park on the map for good. I'll see if I can confirm any of this when I'm up there. And make sure you give us a trip report! I am dying to see how the new slide is, and this weekend sitting around at home made me wish I had a reliable vehicle to drive the 6+ hours there for the weekend
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Post by UtahCoasterEnthusiast on Sept 2, 2016 13:05:20 GMT -8
Does anyone have pictures of the T Rex Track on site?
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Post by Bud Parsley on Oct 20, 2016 17:05:28 GMT -8
Does anyone have pictures of the T Rex Track on site? Nope. It's just a rumor. Nothing more. It's probably a safe bet that Silverwood will get an RMC eventually.... but there is no T-Rex track on site as of now.
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Post by wolfblood on Nov 20, 2016 3:52:44 GMT -8
Over this week at IAAPA there was a RMC interview which throws a massive wrench into the T-Rex rumor, in the interview they talked about their two monorail tracks, the larger T-Rex and the smaller Raptor track. They mentioned they're currently developing the structure and trains for the Raptor track, and there's a lot of clients that are interested in that track. An' they hope to get one out in the next year or so. On top of that, the T-Rex is probably going to lag a bit behind that.
So with a Raptor track coaster hopefully coming out 2018/2019, and the T-rex sometime after that...if SW is getting a RMC soon, I don't see it being the T-Rex track.
Now as we know there has yet to be any announcements for 2017/2018 RMC coasters, but we know they're coming soon. Mean Streak's RMC conversion/replacement at Cedar Point is all but confirmed at this point (I feel this is a 2018 one.), and we know Kennywood is getting a 2018 coaster which could possibly be RMC. Add in that SW loves to announce things on their own time instead of generally when everyone else does, this is still a wait n' see situation.
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Post by SoCalCoaster on Apr 5, 2017 9:48:15 GMT -8
T-rex track was being stored at Silverwood, however that was just some proof of concept stuff that wasn't for any certain project, let alone for Silverwood. No clue if it's still there, but it was being kept in the park's paint shop at least as of IAAPA time. No idea where it is now, if it's even at the park at all. There was other pieces at the RMC plant as of late October that were not the IAAPA display pieces, nor was it the segment shown in a CoasterForce video.
I spoke with some of the RMC guys at IAAPA this past November. While T-rex will certainly be a great product offering from the company, as was said before, the company is much more excited for the Raptor track system. It's a smaller track that will be stronger and be able to use less supports. Due to the smaller gauge, trains will be in line, similar to a Schwarzkopf Jet Star or Space Mountain at Magic Kingdom, so it'll be lighter than your standard train. Here's where it gets interesting though. The way it was described to me is that while you will sit above the track traditionally, you'll only be a few inches above the track. Your legs will sit to either side of the track, with the train having room, thus wrapping around the track in a 'n' shape. They mentioned that Raptor will be able to do what coasters like it can't due to how close you'll be sitting to the track. RMC drew a comparison to Maverick at Cedar Point. They asked me, "remember how it was supposed to have a heartline roll that wound up being uncomfortable and too stressful on the track and trains? Raptor can do that safely, and at higher speeds."
Because I knew the guys from my old Silverwood days (I worked in attractions as well as moonlighted in maintenance), the park naturally came up in conversation. I asked what the plan was for that park as far as Tremors' topper conversion was concerned, and if they had any current projects going on as well as anything that they could talk about regarding the future.
TREMORS Topper track is currently on the backburner. RMC has become so busy with different projects that they've booked themselves full for the next several years. They've become so busy with track manufacturing for not only their rides as well as S&S for their Free Fly coasters, that they've had to subcontract out erection jobs to a newer company out of the Tri-Cities area called "Northwest Coasters." This company has been putting up the Free Fly coasters for Six Flags. Due to all of this, a full Tremors topper conversion just isn't a thing at the moment. RMC mentioned that they wanted to get rid of the PTCs, overhaul the braking system and operating system (it's a manual operation ride) put their rolling stock on the ride as well as figure out a way to get a transfer track on so that they can run two trains on Tremors. This is obviously a huge undertaking, and before they put their rolling stock on, the rest of the ride would need to be converted to topper. Again, just not something that's important to RMC or to Silverwood at the moment.
CORKSCREW One of the beauties of Alan Shilke being involved with RMC is that the man knows how to take care of Arrow coasters, which extends RMC's reach just a bit. Having the S&S partnership obviously goes a long way, too. The company has been taking care of Corkscrew over the past few years when the park can't do what they need to do in house. RMC knows how important Corkscrew is as a piece of history, so it's a bit of a pet project for them.
NEW COASTER T-rex is out of the question. We know that. So where does that leave Raptor? Well, you're probably looking at the first Raptor installation going in at Silverwood. This wasn't confirmed of course, but it was hinted at. While we spoke, details such as launches, inversions and lap bars were thrown around, so you can take that however you will. I heard a bit of a rumor that didn't come from RMC that the ride would be shoehorned into the area inbetween the Log Flume, Tremors and Thunder Canyon's unload station. I don't really agree with this placement, as the park doesn't need every thrill coaster to be clustered into Roller Coaster Alley. The other implication is if they build in that location, they will be losing a Scarywood house location option. If they do wind up building here though, I'd expect to see the Elephants ride moved elsewhere, if not scrapped entirely. The placement (let alone the theme) for the Elephants has always been questionable at best. Moving it to Country Carnival could be a better choice.
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Post by wolfblood on Apr 24, 2017 15:45:34 GMT -8
^ Thanks for the info, SoCalCoaster! Having ridden both Tremors and Corkscrew last year at Scarywood, the trackwork to CS was really well done, and I'd be all for Tremors getting a full topper track refurb since there was a notable smoothness in that second turnaround. (Though of course it would take a good amount of time to overhaul it.)
As for the rumored Raptor track coaster, it's definitely exciting and terrifying to know RMC can pull off the kind of heartline roll Maverick couldn't...even at higher speeds. As for the rumored placement in the RCA field between Tremors and the Log Flume, I wouldn't mind that being the location since that's currently the biggest chunk of unused land in the park. An' yes they'll lose a maze location for Scarywood, but it wouldn't be the first time they had to find a new one. They had no trouble moving mazes into the picnic pavilions, so I have good faith they can find a new location. (That or move mazes back into the Theater of Illusions, the Main Street Field, Thunder Canyon etc.)
Speaking of Raptor track, RMC recently just put up a couple photos on their facebook with "Is that Raptor track I see?"
www.facebook.com/154373424599786/photos/a.422303081140151.81963.154373424599786/1304650642905386/?type=3&theater www.facebook.com/154373424599786/photos/a.422303081140151.81963.154373424599786/1304649056238878/?type=3&theater
If anyones going to Silverwood this summer, it would be best keeping the lookout for any construction. Especially over at the RCA field.
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